Ryan Guzman on Eddie Fate, Buck Relationship and ICE

[This story contains major spoilers from the season nine finale of 9-1-1, “Hearts and Flowers.”]

Ryan Guzman has discovered to roll with the punches on 9-1-1. Back in 2021, when his firefighter-paramedic character, Eddie Diaz, was shot by a sniper, the actor genuinely feared for his job safety. But when he not too long ago discovered that Eddie was going to face one other near-death expertise, Guzman’s response was surprisingly blasé, even supposing the ABC first-responder procedural had simply killed off its first main character last year.

“We get these production packets [from showrunner Tim Minear], so we never get a full script, really. It always keeps us on the edge of our seat,” Guzman tells The Hollywood Reporter with a wry smile. “The show always throws curveballs at us, and we’ve become used to it after nine seasons of adjusting to it.”

In Thursday’s season finale, Eddie is caught within the crosshairs of Anatoly Caster (Alan Starzinski), the scion of a corrupt businessman who was the goal of a police raid, led by protagonist Athena Grant (Angela Bassett), for facilitating a human trafficking ring involving migrants in Los Angeles. After turning into dissatisfied with the crooked Major Crimes detective Ben Hooks (Josh Stamberg), who shot Athena on the finish of the penultimate episode in a determined try and cowl up his involvement within the scheme, Anatoly decides to avenge his late father by displaying as much as the hospital the place Athena is being handled with a gun.

After he overhears Eddie make a snide remark to Chimney (Kenneth Choi) about how the one silver lining is that “the bastard that did this is already dead,” Anatoly follows Eddie into the hospital chapel. Upon studying that Athena made it out of surgical procedure alive, he then stabs Eddie within the stomach and steals his cellphone. A woozy Eddie manages to claw his strategy to the elevator, however he finally ends up getting caught after a nurse initiates a hospital-wide lockdown. It isn’t till Anatoly is apprehended that the remainder of the 118 is ready to come to Eddie’s rescue — and, in fact, it was Eddie’s finest pal, Buck (Oliver Stark), who was the primary to note he was MIA.

In a wide-ranging chat with THR, Guzman opens up under about why he fought for Eddie to be included within the present’s ICE raid storyline, how taking part in this character has helped him come to phrases together with his personal identification — and how he thinks Eddie’s “naivety” components into his fan-favorite relationship with Buck.

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Eddie has fought his method again from demise’s door a number of instances on 9-1-1, however he actually might have bled out in that hospital elevator if the police didn’t get there any sooner to finish the lockdown. How did you method taking part in Eddie within the aftermath of that stabbing? Was there something particularly that you simply suppose was going by way of his thoughts in what might have been his last moments?

Eddie’s seen battle earlier than, so he’s gotten shot at numerous instances now. Stabbing is nothing. (Laughs.) So [executive producer Bradley Buecker, who also directed the finale, said] we will make a meal out of it, however on the finish of the day, we’re going to play this suspension of disbelief and construct that stress into the character’s story going into the elevator. But after we get into the elevator, it’s going to be very fast earlier than the 118 comes and helps. So let’s not play it too loopy as a result of Eddie can be nice. This [finale] is the large “aha” second for Athena [to become a detective], not Eddie.

I consider [Eddie thought about his son] Christopher [played by Gavin McHugh] — the one real love that he’s had in his life — and that he’s acquired to remain alive for that child. So going by way of the obstacles of attempting to go from the church to seek out assist, and then going to the elevator, and then inside the elevator shutting down, he’s like, “Okay, we’re here for the long haul. What’s the best-case scenario in this worst-case scenario? Let me try and find some way I can pack this wound, stop the bleeding as much as I can, and give some timeframe to others to help.” At the tip of the day, it wasn’t trying too good for him. (Laughs.) So he was going lots on religion.

Eddie appeared actual pale in that elevator!

Real pale and bloody. (Laughs.)

While Eddie lays in a hospital mattress, he tells his son Christopher that he doesn’t need him to be sitting there all evening by his bedside. Chris responds, “Why not? You did it for me.” There’s one other flicker of realization in Eddie’s eyes that Chris will not be slightly child anymore. How is Eddie grappling with the thought of turning into an empty nester sooner reasonably than later?

I don’t know if Eddie’s prepared for that. He’s put a lot time and effort into turning into the dad of Christopher. A majority of his identification is round that. So if there’s no child to care for now, and the child has grown as much as a sure level — really, Gavin simply had his sixteenth birthday yesterday, it’s so loopy. But it’s like, “What do I do with my life now? Where’s my purpose? My purpose was my child, and now my child is trying to take care of me.” It’s flipping the script. So, in a way, it’s really inviting a variety of alternative to Eddie. I’ve hopes for [Eddie] as soon as he begins to grasp the brand new dynamic between Christopher and himself. I really feel it invitations a variety of grey space [within himself] to be searched out and understood slightly bit higher.

While 9-1-1 has by no means been shy about drawing inspiration from real-life emergencies, the writers have by no means leaned into topical occasions, aside from the COVID-19 pandemic, fairly like they did in final week’s episode with ICE brokers raiding a hospital the place migrants had been being handled. Is it true that you simply needed to ask Tim to revisit that migrant storyline to incorporate Eddie?

Whoa, who informed you that?

I consider you mentioned it in another interview.

(Laughs.) I did?

You talked about that you simply had a dialog with Tim after studying the tip of the season, and he finally rewrote a “topical” storyline to incorporate Eddie.

Yeah, we had a dialog — me, Tim and Brad as effectively. We all had been of the identical thoughts that Eddie was pivotal on this. With 9-1-1, we hardly ever go after topical occasions this massive, as a result of there’s lots of people that really feel in a different way about this, however this one needed to be informed. The Pitt had done it before, and now it’s 9-1-1’s model. We acquired to humanize the expertise for the viewers, to let the viewers perceive what the migrant story actually is and that they’re folks identical to any of us. It permits for folks to essentially really feel the entire story. Getting pulled from the worst situations in some basement, and then going into this restoration course of, all simply to get taken away and deported once more and thrown into these encampments is a horrible thought to wrap your head round. So I’m grateful that Tim wrote that in, and Brad and I wished to do it justice.

When did you guys have that dialog?

It was the identical day that we had gotten some semblance of the script for the final episode. After studying it, I used to be simply curious why Eddie was extra concerned in a single storyline than the opposite, and then it introduced upon the dialog between Tim and I. Tim made the final word determination to place Eddie into it.

What did you really make of Eddie’s involvement in these last episodes?

From the second that Eddie is main the 118 to go discover the room [where the migrants were being held], I felt tied to the storyline, being as topical as it’s. And representing Mexican-American tradition, I felt prefer it was a disservice if I didn’t converse up and permit Eddie to connect himself to this storyline slightly bit greater than was introduced, particularly when he’s holding the kid and bringing him to the ambulance. I’m like, “You’re getting twofold [representation] there.” One, you’re getting a illustration of, “Whoa, this could have been Christopher. They’re the same age.” And then second, “This is my people. This is my heritage.” It brings up the query: “What am I doing about it?” So when the chance presents itself, I simply felt that it was befitting of Eddie to place his foot ahead and showcase that we acquired to do every part we probably can to assist these folks out.

What has it been like so that you can watch that sort of aggressive enforcement of immigration play out from afar on the information and now on this fictional context? Did it really feel viscerally totally different from different storylines you’ve performed out on 9-1-1?

Absolutely. I’ve many, many relations which have been affected — that might be affected — and it’s very, very actual. In a time and age the place something and every part can be utilized towards you and you’re [considered] responsible first earlier than being confirmed harmless, I’m in awe a variety of the instances once I have a look at the information. I can’t consider a nation based on immigrants is treating immigrants within the worst methods.

So I’m, once more, very proud that 9-1-1 was capable of showcase this in a method of, “How can we help migrants? How can we help people? What are we willing to do to get around these obstacles?” In reality, lots of people that I’m watching on the information don’t have the sources of their day-to-day lives, and it takes cash to get folks out of sure encampments. These movies that I’ve seen, man, they’re horrible. Watching youngsters being taken away from their moms; folks being taken from the hospital, their jobs. It’s a foul state of affairs.

On the flip facet, you had a possibility to showcase a special — and extra celebratory — facet of Mexican tradition within the “Día de Los Muertos” episode, during which Eddie loses his abuela abruptly however reconnects together with his religion. After eight seasons of taking part in him, what did that episode disclose to you about Eddie as a personality, and what did that storyline imply to you personally?

From a personality perspective, Eddie discovered that he was extra non secular, and his religion was stronger than he’d believed. Eddie was capable of perceive that every part that he had gone by way of the previous 7-8 years led him to that second, as a result of he dealt with the passing of his abuela a lot in a different way than every other demise. He was capable of basically mature in that episode and showcase that maturity and vulnerability, but not dropping himself by way of the vulnerability as a result of now he has [developed] emotional intelligence. He was capable of pull from all these profound messages that he acquired from his abuela and Bobby [the late fire captain played by Peter Krause] — the 2 most influential figures to him previously years — and go full circle in that storyline, which was lovely to me.

That particular episode made me so profoundly happy with my tradition. I used to be trying round at loads of the Latin folks that work with us. Many of them occurred to be Mexican, and I used to be asking them, “Have you ever experienced something like this?” And they mentioned, “No.” Plenty of instances, we might cease and watch everyone come down that avenue dressed up and celebrating the passing of their family members, and you get emotional. It’s this out-of-body expertise. I used to be simply thanking God and so grateful that I occurred to be born Mexican-American. This is the tradition that I pull from.

As a mixed-race particular person, how has your relationship along with your cultural identification modified over time? Do you’re feeling like your elevated visibility has include any added strain or duty?

Absolutely. Earlier on in my profession, folks didn’t actually know what nationality I used to be, so I might rep Mexican fairly laborious as a result of lots of people would suppose I used to be simply strictly white, and then they’d begin saying sure issues about Mexicans in entrance of me. So I wished it to be recognized that, “No, no, no, you can’t say that. You’re not getting the pass around me. If you’re going to say it around me, then be aware.” Since the present although, I’ve seen much more illustration being thrust upon me and my involvement which means much more.

I struggled with identification for the longest time, however my understanding now’s that I signify a particular group of Mexican-Americans. I’m biracial, first and foremost. I could be white-passing loads of instances. I used to be raised a “no sabo” child. So there’s loads of Mexican-Americans that appear like me, sound like me, stroll like me. I believe everyone’s so used to the stereotypical Mexican. They have that ingrained of their thoughts from years and years of being pushed this narrative. I’ve now seen a possibility once more to showcase to not solely simply the U.S., however to the world, that we come in numerous flavors, sizes, shapes — and right here I’m.

You have drawn plenty of uncanny parallels between you and Eddie through the years — to the purpose that you simply’ve been capable of play out some moments on TV earlier than they occurred to you in actual life. Do you ever really feel like Tim is pulling inspiration straight from your individual life? How would you characterize your working relationship with him?

(Laughs.) Oh yeah, it’s loopy. You know that complete conspiracy about The Simpsons writing the long run? Tim tapped into slightly little bit of that, so I don’t know what he’s doing on his private time. (Laughs.) But it’s eerie, to be trustworthy, when that occurs. Maybe it’s synchronicity, perhaps it’s fortune-telling, however I’m glad that I get a possibility with the character to work out all these various things in order that when it occurs in actual life, I really feel like I’ve already achieved the work.

As far as my relationship with Tim, I’m so grateful for him. He’s helped me a lot all through the whole lot of this present. Our communication has by no means been higher, and our relationship has by no means been higher. He’s a type of uncommon showrunners that’s so open to collaboration in case you have one thing of price so as to add to the character, or if one thing’s not feeling proper with the character. I’ve labored with different showrunners, and it’s laborious to get in touch with them — or they’re not open to listening to something from you. Tim is sort of the alternative. His complete schtick is that he’ll get the script to you 10 days late, however exterior of that, it’s as a result of he’s transforming every part he probably can to make your character shine.

Did you two focus on Eddie having a love curiosity this season? You mentioned months in the past that one thing was “cooking” in Eddie’s romantic life, however that finally by no means materialized.

Yeah, we did. There was a possibility with one thing taking place in Eddie’s storyline. It didn’t pan out the best way we noticed it. We had hopes, however on the finish of the day, if one thing’s not working, it’s a must to regulate and it’s a must to make one thing [new] to fill that area. So it grew to become much less about Eddie’s love story — that’s been fairly prevalent previously couple seasons — and it grew to become extra in regards to the involvement of Eddie in his 118 household and his general progress as a human being.

Buck and Eddie’s street journey from hell proper after the 9-1-1: Nashville crossover was a specific spotlight this season. After they’re separated in a automotive accident, Eddie breaks himself out of the hospital to seek out Buck, Buck even tries to sacrifice himself to guard Eddie, and then they finally save one another. It felt like a testomony to simply how shut these two guys have grown through the years.

I really feel like we discovered the key sauce with that relationship — the again and forth [between] Buck and Eddie — and the followers spoke for themselves for that episode. I consider it did actually, actually good [ratings-wise]. So I like the truth that we dive into extra of the humorous elements between these two characters, as a result of there’s a variety of humor to play off of. God, whenever you actually have a look at it, they do oppose one another lots in numerous attributes. It’s an ideal steadiness of constructive/unfavorable, unfavorable/constructive. One’s tremendous hopeful a couple of drive dwelling; the opposite one’s attempting to be lifelike/pessimistic about every part. That relationship continues to evolve, and what it’s advanced to already is greater than Oliver and I even had supposed for, not to mention understood, at first.

Eddie and Buck have this actually nice verbal argument at a diner in New Mexico, and a homophobic patron remarks that he’s by no means seen their “type” earlier than. Do you suppose Eddie was conscious of how he and Buck got here throughout as a bickering married couple to those locals?

No, I believe Eddie lives in such naivety, and he’s oblivious to a lot that that’s sort of the feel of the character. I believe if he knew what that appeared like or performed into that, it wouldn’t learn as effectively, to be trustworthy. So him having that spat with Buck, not understanding that he seems to be like the precise married couple that you simply see on TV, amplifies that scene. When the man begins speaking, “I’ve never seen your type over here,” Eddie has no clue the place that’s coming from, and he’s simply so irate at that time that he’s trying to throw his anger at anyone. So he goes after that man, and he simply leans into it, and it’s nonetheless not clicking to him like, “What the hell’s happening?” He simply desires to harm anyone. But yeah, I believe, once more, his naivety is what’s permitting all the stress to construct.

Eddie doesn’t know that Buck’s sister Maddie (Jennifer Love Hewitt) and ex Tommy (Lou Ferrigno Jr.) each questioned Buck about whether or not he was in love with Eddie final season. But I assume you suppose Eddie has by no means even requested himself if Buck is likely to be interested by him.

Yeah. (Laughs.) You don’t know what you don’t know, on the finish of the day.

Fans have very robust opinions about whether or not Buck and Eddie’s relationship is platonic or romantic. Is there a cause that you simply suppose the writers have been reluctant to commit a technique or one other to defining their dynamic?

That could be extra of a query for Tim, to be trustworthy, and I wouldn’t wish to speculate on their very own solutions. But, once more, the true nature of why I really feel we’ve lasted for therefore lengthy and [why] we’re going into our 10th season is as a result of every person who performs every character coexists with the opposite particular person in such a pleasant method, and we pull from one another so effectively. So when the digicam calls reduce and we return into our common lives, we’re having a lot enjoyable and we’re diving deep into one another’s lives, serving to one another with sure issues. It builds this textured life that reads so effectively on digicam. And to decide to any sides of the characters themselves, I don’t know. I believe from a writing standpoint, perhaps that limits the stress, or the alternatives for potentialities. There’s a lot to say that I wouldn’t be capable of offer you a full reply.

That’s a good reply. Tim recently said that, finally, “the possibility of [Buddie]” is what makes that dynamic “exciting.”

Exactly.

Have you ever leaned come what may when it got here to the way you see or select to play that dynamic?

No, if something, I’ve leaned extra into simply taking part in the reality of the place Eddie is. That’s his finest pal, and he cares about him in a really, very deep method. I pull from my very own experiences [and] my finest pals. I’d do something and every part I probably might for them, particularly their households. So I believe the reality of Eddie at this time limit is main into that naivety. And if Buck had been to current anything [to him other than friendship], I haven’t even wrapped my head round how Eddie would perceive the best way to transfer ahead with that — aside from being caught off guard, I assume. It’s virtually like when one thing’s so shut, you possibly can’t see [the bigger picture]. It’s proper underneath your nostril, however you possibly can’t see it. I believe that’s the way it’s meant to be performed. So, yeah, I’ve no clue what the long run holds. Again, Tim is the Almighty, and we’ll see what occurs.

Buck has at all times acted as a sort of co-parent to Christopher, however Buck now has a toddler of his personal as a result of he turns into the foster mother or father of Theo — the son that his late pals conceived with Buck because the sperm donor — on the finish of the finale. Do you suppose Eddie and Buck will begin having extra conversations about parenting going ahead? How might the addition of one other baby change their dynamic?

It might change issues lots. We simply talked about Christopher not needing Eddie a lot, and perhaps now he’s discovered one other child that wants him. But then once more, the dynamic between Theo and Buck is ideal as a result of, as mentioned in a earlier episode, [Theo’s] virtually the embodiment of Buck. This loopy, chaotic child might be going to interrupt each bone in his physique as he goes alongside in life — he’s virtually payback for a way Buck was as he grew up. (Laughs.)

So there’s so many studying experiences which are essential to Buck’s character that occur just for Buck, however there can be a variety of leaning on Eddie in attempting to grasp how this all works — being a single dad and time administration, and even understanding the psyche of a kid and their sleep schedules, and all of the issues that include a toddler. But that additionally affords a lot humor. So we will play the humorous moments of that — not simply the loopy and unhappy moments. There’s a lot that we will play. And let me simply say that the 2 youngsters that play Theo are unimaginable, as a result of [when they’re] that younger, it’s so laborious to maintain anyone on observe. Every single time they known as motion, they knew precisely what they had been doing, once they had been doing it, and the best way to say sure phrases or strains. So I’m excited to see what evolves with these characters.

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